The writer makes a number of claims based on information that he assumes is understood and accepted by the readers. His (or her) claims that Kerry hired Wilson and Plame, coupled with his allusion to a specific agenda, are indicative of someone who has signed on to a specific paradigm in evaluating the world. I would like to read what he has read and see the “evidence” that he is privy to in order to evaluate the value of his claims.

He also indicates that their membership in the Peace Corps is evidence that they are part of a conspiracy to promote the agendas of what he refers to as “red terror-’ communists’ (sic), and that “They hide behind the democratic party” to work towards “their end goals.” His suggestion that the Kerry party, the Wilsons, the French, the Nigerians, and the Commies were in it together in a “foreign operation aimed at Bush and Rice’s WMD degree” is unsubstantiated in the article and contradicted repeatedly and consistently in the published works of many investigative organizations who have looked in to the claims of WMD in Iraq. Most notably of these investigations were the ones done by the United States Army (were they also involved in supporting mad-man-Kerry’s evil plot?) Again, I would like to read his source material instead of just feeling like this is the ramblings of someone who has trouble putting a logical argument together.

Finally, the writer’s claim that the DoJ and CIA were in league and run by a bunch of liberal-commie-Peace Corps-leftist-pinko-Nazis smacks of the Red Scare to me. Just my opinion here, but I have not seen any EVIDENCE to support the suggestion that the DoJ is working with the CIA to cover up a CIA operation run by foreign nationals in order to undermine the administration and destabilize America’s position in the international balance of power. We can throw OPINIONS around all we want, but unless they are backed up by EVIDENCE they remain OPINION, not a reasonable ARGUEMENT. In order to have an arguement you must have two sides agree on a set of premises and support their sides of the arguement with facts or evidence. We don’t really have that here, now do we.

We can turn any arguement into opinion pieces, simply by ignoring the facts. Making claims that “there isn’t any point to arguing with ‘you people’” is one of the oldest tricks in the proverbial book–and it’s one of the least accepted in the disciplines of public speaking and logical analysis. Scurrilous claims are the last haven for scoundrals. This comment is interesting, if only as a study of the danger of rhetoric and the propensity to slide into conspiracy theories when you become too entrenched in a specific point of view that you loose sight of the picture.

Dumpedebat let the article speak for itself, and then commented on that article. According to the Grand Jury, there is enough EVIDENCE of perjury and obstruction of justice to indict Libby, whether or not he’ll be convicted. If he’s guilty, it would appear that he was covering SOMETHING up, and just what that something is, I’m sure Fitzgerald would love to find out. If he’s not guilty, he’ll be exonerated, just like in any other trial. But I have yet to see evidence of the “evil leftist cabal” to which anon refers. Set us hippies straight, anon! Don’t just tell us that we’re wrong, show us why!

Who you tryin to fool? You are obviously George W. himself.

Great post you fucking idiot.

Kerry also hired other Peace Corps Volunteers like Wilson to be in charge of his foreign policy. It was already known that this job was a loss because Kerry hired Wilson and Plame, basically ending his run for the Presidency. A look at the facts shows that the only reason Plame identified herself as a CIA operations officer, paramilitarily trained was to get desired results she could not find by memoing every important US government official when she realized the running of Wilson in Niger was going to back fire on her as an operations officer; it was a foreign operation aimed at Bush and Rice’s WMD degree. An advisor might tell those in power it was already too late for Plame as Plame had gone rogue with the French and Niger foreign penetration operation. Followed were more memo leaks, probably Plame related, and the use of her leak of covert ‘Rice’ WMD CIA policy(the schooling of all operations officers in WMD, like Rice’s degree) and the use of that later in the outing of Spain through the ‘Vanity Fair’ article, which, once again, was the only way she could acheive the desired results.

War protesters have a history at CIA and politics, it all a tool to acheive end goals. Plame don’t like Bush and he’s gotta go. The treason end can be researched with Howard and Aimes, two other Peace Corps Volunteers like Wilson whowere used by their CIA trainer(the same person) to committ treason; this is were Plame was leading Wilson and its interesting to see how fast she relied on the ‘Vanity Fair’ article for the assasintantions of the Spanish operations officers and others in Iraq followed the Madrid bombing, coup, a pullout of Iraq. ‘War protesters’ rolling up an operations Wilson was originally involved in as his diplomatic father and he have a huge history in Spain-Plame was done.

Scooter was as close as they could get to coup. Sorry, but DOJ now works for CIA and that may have alot to do with the fact that the Special prosecutor looked for a conspiracy any place but CIA, where it is obvious there was; Plame was rogue and bad CIA agents are investigated by DOJ as ‘mob’ or criminal conspiracy. Fitz failed at this and went after all the pliticians, which seems to be the only thing he is good at. Now we need a new investigative arm to investigate bad CIA agents because DOJ now reports directly to CIA. A conflict of interest. CIA does operate domestically, it is in their charter at Congress; there are questions of how DOJ reports and what was Plame doing under the ‘five year informant law.’ She, may, in fact, say she was operating domesticially inder the ‘five year informant law,’ when, in fact, she was using the five year informant law to hide, again, and attack the White House. Aimes and Howard can only be mentioned again here. Most of their targets, the reason they were run by the CIA trainer, were foreign. Plame, in effect, operated the same in Iraq under US Provisional Authority. There is not much difference here.