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	<title>Comments on: Bad news, good news</title>
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	<description>A sniff in the kortevar, that what you cry for, yeled?  A prert up the cull, a prang on the dumpendebat?</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dumpendebat</title>
		<link>http://dumpendebat.net/2005/12/03/bad-news-good-news/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>dumpendebat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we a lost cause?  Is there any reason for any continued optimism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we a lost cause?  Is there any reason for any continued optimism?</p>
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		<title>By: RP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard recently from young marine and former student:

"I hate all of those fucking Iraqis.  They are either insurgents, breeders of insurgents, or will grow up to be insurgents.  I want every fucking one of them dead."

This is from a kid with a truly priviledged backgroud: his father is a circuit judge; his mother is the first female president of the yacht club.  Emboldened by the patriotic fervor with which he was welcomed home, he recounted every horror he could remember with enough gusto to make even the most hawkish of my school's faculty uneasy.  Because he knew of my own service he came to me to brag of the doors he had kicked in, the bodies of the dead he had blown to smithereens (combat engineer), and the trophies he had smuggled back to the states (prayer books, id cards, watches, etc.).  

This is a kid completely fucked in the head.  He is worse off mentally than if he had spend 2 years in the joint--totally lost.  He won't go back to VMI where he enlisted in the Reserve either.  He has a taste for it.

Even S.E.A.L.S. used to be taught what it means to be an American.  

We're a lost cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard recently from young marine and former student:</p>
<p>&#8220;I hate all of those fucking Iraqis.  They are either insurgents, breeders of insurgents, or will grow up to be insurgents.  I want every fucking one of them dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is from a kid with a truly priviledged backgroud: his father is a circuit judge; his mother is the first female president of the yacht club.  Emboldened by the patriotic fervor with which he was welcomed home, he recounted every horror he could remember with enough gusto to make even the most hawkish of my school&#8217;s faculty uneasy.  Because he knew of my own service he came to me to brag of the doors he had kicked in, the bodies of the dead he had blown to smithereens (combat engineer), and the trophies he had smuggled back to the states (prayer books, id cards, watches, etc.).  </p>
<p>This is a kid completely fucked in the head.  He is worse off mentally than if he had spend 2 years in the joint&#8211;totally lost.  He won&#8217;t go back to VMI where he enlisted in the Reserve either.  He has a taste for it.</p>
<p>Even S.E.A.L.S. used to be taught what it means to be an American.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re a lost cause.</p>
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