A uniter, not a divider
Our President is a uniter, not a divider:
At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked [Sen. Jim] Webb [D - Va.] how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.
Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.
“I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source.
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December 5th, 2006 @ 07:12
Here is the whole conversation - something Dump left out. Hey Dump, are you trying to get a job with the Al-NY Times or Al-Reuters? You are on your way with this type of journalism.
Jim Webb, Virginia’s new Democrat Senator-elect, has a son serving in Iraq. At a private White House reception, President Bush asked Webb, “How’s your boy?” Webb’s response was: “I’d like to get them out of Iraq.” “That’s not what I asked,” said Bush. “How’s your boy?” Webb retorted: “That’s between my boy and me.” A source told “The Hill” newspaper that Webb was so angered he was “tempted to slug” the President.
So much for the poppycock Democrats have been selling about civility and bipartisanship. You can expect the same hate-inspired classlessness that defined them in the minority as they become the majority.
On the other hand, if Senator Webb’s son had a better career, why, he wouldn’t even be in Iraq — that’s what Charlie Rangel said on Fox News last weekend. He said, “If a young fellow has an option of having a decent career or joining the Army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life [he wouldn't]… be in Iraq.” The Army is not a decent career, see? Only the stupid get stuck in Iraq! We’ve heard it before Charlie [Ed. Note: from John Kerry], — thanks.
Moving on: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. In a letter to the American people, [he] says that he hopes Bush got the midterm election message. He warns his fellow Democrats that they too will “be held to account by the people and by history,” and — like Senator Webb — urges the troops be brought home quickly. Ahmadinejad also complained about the cost of the war, because “many victims of Katrina continue to suffer, and countless Americans continue to live in poverty and homelessness.” (Iran’s leader said this!)
The ‘08 campaign thus begins, folks, the same way Democrats ended the ‘06 race — with Ahmadinejad as their spokesman! - Rush Limbaugh
My fellow Americans, I hope our enemies abroad (terrorists and dictators) sounding exactly like the enemies in this country (liberals and Democrats) is not being missed. – Hank Dagny
You post so rarely and throw a half - truth out there when you do. Did you just take it off some other left wing loser site?
December 5th, 2006 @ 07:55
Here’s a hint for you, you fucking dipshit: when you see a hyperlink, try clicking on it. Know what it’ll do? It’ll take you to another Web page. Cool, huh?
Why don’t you try it? Scroll up. Look at the words “a uniter, not a divider.” See how they’re underlined? Try clicking on them. What happens when you click on them?
Ever seen that before, dumbass? Neat, huh?
Thanks for playing, wingnut.
December 5th, 2006 @ 12:28
Touchy, touchy. I think I hit a bulls-eye. You could of posted it all. Doubt it would of taxed you.
I took your “uniter, not a divider” as sarcasm - coming from your side of the isle.
December 5th, 2006 @ 12:34
You took it as sarcasm, huh? There’s hope for you yet! You recognize sarcasm when you see it, sometimes.
Yes, it probably would have been easier for me to “post it all” than to expect you to know that links are there for you to click on. Guess I gave you too much credit there, Tom Swift.
December 5th, 2006 @ 13:25
Bottom line, you wanted to make an invalid point and you suceeded.
I wish you well as VP of CNN or Al-Jazeera - which is one in the same. You now are dishonest enough in your journalism to reach the MSPAM pinacle.
December 5th, 2006 @ 13:46
“Journalism”? What journalism? This is a weblog, one of approximately 50 million(?) weblogs in the world. You will never find anything resembling “journalism” here.
As for your accusations of “dishonesty,” you don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know the difference.
Your semi-literacy, evidenced by the fact that you write things like “should of” and “would of,” is a visible sign of how seriously you should be taken. You’re a loud, angry, misguided blowhard. You’re amusing most of the time, but sometimes you get ugly enough to provoke anger. Is that what you’re after?
(Note to Xmas shoppers: Hank Dagny, aka “Lycfyg,” could use a dictionary. Someone could really brighten his Christmas morning with a gift of Webster’s. He’s been good this year!)
December 5th, 2006 @ 23:35
Rangel hit the nail on the head. As company scribe in bootcamp I tallied enlistment polls done at RTC. Responses to “Why join?” were mostly, “To earn money for college.” Others: “To support my family” and “To travel” and “Nothing better to do” and “To learn a trade”; a couple of “family traditions” and one or two simply wrote, “Three hots and a cot”. One dude actually wrote “To serve the US and A”–the kicker…he was also the only recruit from the fucking Phillipine Islands! Another kicker…you can retire from the Navy and STILL not earn citizenship if your from the PI. Assholes who really want to believe these kids sign up to fight (and die or get parts blown off or just go fucking batshit) for their freedom to sit on their fat asses eating pizza and watching football need a reality check. Has “Hank” ever seen a recruitment commercial? They get kids who want what they promise: money for a new mustang; a stipend if they ever go to college; world travel (to some of the best geographic sphincters on god’s green earth); and better-than-nothing medical for their dependents. The exception is the Marine Corp–they promise to make you into Lancelot in shining armor–they just don’t tell you that Guinevere is a Mexican whore who shoots pingpong balls from her twat.
By the way, the Phillipino rocked out of bootcamp because of a heart murmur.
And so it goes.
December 6th, 2006 @ 13:10
“…if your from the PI” and “Marine Corp.” Nice.
As to what motivates people to join the U.S. military, I’d say there are many reasons than the economic ones outlined above. I suggest that’s probably true more so today than in the last 50 years.
During WWII (and before) the rationale for joining was most likely patriotism. I would guess that rationale diminished increasing up to around the year 2002. During RP’s time, a better paycheck & opportunities probably were big motivators; but I wouldn’t underestimate the fact that many joined for those things as well as for reasons of patriotic beliefs. For me personally, I joined to improve myself and have an opportunity to defend the U.S.
Fast forward to 2002 and my guess is that most recruits enlist for reasons that aren’t primarily economic. Most ground pounders will have to go to Iraq eventually, and most people would rather work in a low paying civilian job rather than go there. So my guess is that many of today’s recruits differ from the late 80’s or 90’s timeframe. They probably see the U.S. under attack (rightfully or wrongfully) and respond the only way they know how. I submit the fact that Webb’s son enlisted in the Corps as a proof of this. He’s most likely from a pretty wealthy background but still enlisted. So I’d say that money and opportunity clearly aren’t what he’s going after.
I agree with RP’s comment that it is unfair for people serving in the U.S. military to be denied citizenship. In my opinion, those that serve the U.S. should be entitled to participate fully in its government and society.
As far as the thread that started this, from my reading of Dump’s excerpt, I don’t think Bush is off base in his reply. If the story is true, he asked how Webb’s son was. “Webb responded that he (Webb) really wanted to see his son brought back home.” Well, that’s not an answer to the question. The question was about the condition of Webb’s son, not what Webb felt about his son. Anyway, I don’t find too much fault in how Bush responded.
Had Webb said “he’s doing shitty and wants to come home” or “he’s doing swell and really likes it at Anaconda” then those would’ve been good responses. As it stands, Webb never answered the question and Bush called him on it. Not sure what the big deal is on that.
December 6th, 2006 @ 15:38
Can you imagine any other wartime President snottily snapping “That’s not what I asked you” in a similar situation? I think it shows that President Bush is kind of a butthole. You are, of course, free to disagree; maybe you think Senator-elect Webb was the butthole.
By the way, dude: do me a favor and don’t call me “Dump.” I expect it from my enemies, but not from my friends.
December 6th, 2006 @ 17:55
You liberals do not deserve the protection our military bestows upon you. Not only are you traitors to your country - but ungrateful ones besides.
December 6th, 2006 @ 18:08
Dagnys a hypocrite-
Ask him why he rails against Government unions but his wife is in one and their daughter takes one menial class at college so she can stay on mommies insurance. ROBBING THE TAXPAYERS BLIND-
Invokes God all the time but hardly ever sets foot in a church or says a prayer to our LORD, he doesn’t even go to Church on our Lords Birthday or Resurrection, thats Christianity for you in rio lynda
He constantly brings up the Military but has never served a day in his life, he actually dodged the Vietnam draft.
He is nothing but a hypocrite, he threatens to kill you when he gets really mad, I have him on tape I know him personally, he has blocked me from his blogs
December 6th, 2006 @ 20:08
See what you’ve been missing out on “LH VUG” (I try and the SKAT just won’t go away)! Didn’t you teach yourself that junk once upon a time? I swear I sometimes think of you as a Korling.
Geddy’s comment is the funniest damn thing I’ve read on line all week.
December 7th, 2006 @ 03:42
Apologies to Dumpendebat, no offense intended on the name issue.
I’m pretty sure that Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, LBJ and all other Presidents didn’t take off their political gloves during wartime. Personally, I don’t think either Webb or Bush or buttholes. I do think they could both use a nap though.
Hank, my man: Relax. All Americans are equally entitled to all protections offered by the U.S. government. Thank God for that too.
December 7th, 2006 @ 15:06
No problem, Hanque. You da man.
We see where Hank Dagny is coming from with his most recent comment. When all else fails, he goes back to the imputations of treason. I shouldn’t let him get my goat, but I’m human and sometimes I lose my temper.