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		<title>The NRA Has Finally Lost Me</title>
		<link>http://dumpendebat.net/2012/04/21/the-nra-has-finally-lost-me/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ted Nugent&#8217;s comments at the NRA event in St Louis last weekend were the proverbial straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back for me, readers. I will not be renewing my NRA membership this year. My conscience will not allow me to continue to lend my financial support to an organization that will give Ted Nugent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Nugent&#8217;s comments at the NRA event in St Louis last weekend were the proverbial straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back for me, readers.  <strong>I will not be renewing my NRA membership this year.</strong>  My conscience will not allow me to continue to lend my financial support to an organization that will <a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/201204180012">give Ted Nugent money</a> &#8212; more money than most American families make in a year &#8212; to go up on stage and deliver nasty, semi-coherent, ugly rants that border on <strong>hate speech</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>At this year&#8217;s convention Nugent accused President Obama of having a <strong>&#8220;vile, evil America-hating administration&#8221; that is &#8220;wiping its ass with the Constitution&#8221;</strong> while telling the crowd that <strong>&#8220;We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.&#8221;</strong> Nugent also claimed that <strong>&#8220;If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>I still support the Second Amendment;  I am a handgun owner;  I feel strongly that gun ownership is one of our basic fundamental rights as citizens of the United States of America.</p>
<p>But I will no longer be part of an organization that subsidizes and encourages the likes of Ted Nugent, whose nasty, stupid, hate-filled rhetoric is helping to poison what&#8217;s left of our political discourse.  Of course he has the right to express his opinions, but I don&#8217;t have to help him get paid to do so.</p>
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		<title>Excellence In Broadcasting?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Readers, I&#8217;ve been hoping Rush would do the &#8220;due diligence research&#8221; he promised his listeners he&#8217;d do [see my previous two posts], but it doesn&#8217;t look like he and his staff ever managed to find the time. (He&#8217;s got much more important things to do, such as accusing Sen. McCain of &#8220;kissing Obama&#8217;s butt&#8221; and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers, I&#8217;ve been hoping Rush would do the &#8220;due diligence research&#8221; he promised his listeners he&#8217;d do [see my previous two posts], but it doesn&#8217;t look like he and his staff ever managed to find the time.  (He&#8217;s got much more important things to do, such as <a href="http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201110200020">accusing Sen. McCain of &#8220;kissing Obama&#8217;s butt&#8221; and gratuitously insulting the First Lady</a>.  Now that&#8217;s classy.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/search/?query=lord's+resistance+army&#038;go.x=0&#038;go.y=0&#038;go=go">Searching Rush&#8217;s website</a>, the only mention I have seen of the LRA since last Friday&#8217;s show has been <a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/18/dawn_brian_and_snerdley_enter_the_congressional_record">one mention</a> of how Rush&#8217;s sidekicks were mentioned on the Senate floor during a speech by Sen. Inhofe (who was speaking in support of President Obama&#8217;s decision to send Special Forces soldiers to Africa to help put down the LRA):</p>
<blockquote><p>Dawn, Brian, and Snerdley all made their debuts on the Senate floor yesterday <strong>all because I happened to be misinformed about something.</strong> [...] We said they were sending in a hundred people as advisors and so forth, but I wanted to play the sound bites primarily &#8217;cause you three are now in the Congressional Record.  All three of you.  And you&#8217;re in the Congressional Record because you didn&#8217;t know something!  How does it feel?  (laughing)</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;I happened to be misinformed about something.&#8221;  That dismissive sentence, I am sure, is the closest he&#8217;ll ever come to &#8220;due diligence research.&#8221;  Rush has long since moved on.  He scored his cheap little political point &#8212; President Obama is sending US troops to Africa, &#8220;targeting Christians&#8221; &#8212; and now he just says &#8220;I happened to be misinformed&#8221; and lets the matter drop.  That&#8217;s his &#8220;due diligence research.&#8221;  I was hoping he might surprise me and show a little class (and intellectual honesty) for once, but that did not happen, because Rush Limbaugh is simply not a very good person.</p>
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		<title>Will Rush set the record straight?</title>
		<link>http://dumpendebat.net/2011/10/17/will-rush-set-the-record-straight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll be interested to see if Rush and his staff will do the &#8220;due diligence research&#8221; he said they&#8217;d do on the Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army [see previous post]. Will he admit the truth: that the Obama administration is not &#8220;targeting Christians&#8221; in central Africa, but helping regional governments get rid of a noxious, vicious gang [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see if Rush and his staff will do the &#8220;due diligence research&#8221; he said they&#8217;d do on the Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army [see previous post].  Will he admit the truth:  that the Obama administration is not &#8220;targeting Christians&#8221; in central Africa, but helping regional governments get rid of a noxious, vicious gang of criminals who stand accused of crimes against humanity?</p>
<p>Even if Rush does the right thing here, there&#8217;s no way for him to come out of this looking good.  There are only two possibilities:</p>
<ol>
<li>Rush knew all along what the LRA is all about, and he was just playing his listeners for fools.  If this is the case, he&#8217;s a liar and a demagogue, willing to say anything if it makes President Obama and/or the Democratic Party look bad.</li>
<li>Rush really didn&#8217;t know any better, and he thought the LRA were good Christian freedom fighters.  He didn&#8217;t even do the minimal level of homework &#8212; not even a Google search &#8212; before accusing the President of &#8220;targeting Christians.&#8221;  If this is the case, he has made a real fool out of himself, inadvertently speaking out in defense of a murder gang who kidnap children and force them to serve as guerillas or sex slaves.</li>
</ol>
<p>In neither case has Rush displayed any of the &#8220;excellence in broadcasting&#8221; of which he is wont to boast.</p>
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		<title>Rush Limbaugh seems to approve of Joseph Kony&#8217;s &#8220;Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first heard about this, I thought it was a joke, but it&#8217;s for real, readers. Rush Limbaugh has spoken out in support of Joseph Kony&#8217;s Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army, eagerly accusing President Obama of &#8220;targeting Christians.&#8221; Look at what Rush said, according to transcripts of his radio show posted on his own official website: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard about this, I thought it was a joke, but it&#8217;s for real, readers.  Rush Limbaugh has spoken out in support of Joseph Kony&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army">Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army,</a> eagerly accusing President Obama of &#8220;targeting Christians.&#8221;  Look at <a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians">what Rush said,</a> according to transcripts of his radio show posted on his own official website:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army are Christians.  They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan.</strong>  And Obama has sent troops, United States troops to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them.  That&#8217;s what the lingo means, &#8220;to help regional forces remove from the battlefield,&#8221; meaning capture or kill. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s a new war, <strong>a hundred troops to wipe out Christians in Sudan, Uganda, and &#8211;</strong> (interruption) no, I&#8217;m not kidding.  Jacob Tapper just reported it.  Now, are we gonna help the Egyptians wipe out the Christians?  Wouldn&#8217;t you say that we are?  I mean the Coptic Christians are being wiped out, but it wasn&#8217;t just Obama that supported that.  The conservative intelligentsia thought it was an outbreak of democracy.  Now they&#8217;ve done a 180 on that, but they forgot that they supported it in the first place.  Now they&#8217;re criticizing it. </p>
<p>Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army objectives.  I have them here.  &#8220;To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people.&#8221; Now, again Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army is who Obama sent troops to help nations wipe out.  The objectives of the Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army, what they&#8217;re trying to accomplish with their military action in these countries is the following:  &#8220;To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people; to fight for the immediate restoration of the competitive multiparty democracy in Uganda; to see an end to gross violation of human rights and dignity of Ugandans; to ensure the restoration of peace and security in Uganda, to ensure unity, sovereignty, and economic prosperity beneficial to all Ugandans, and to bring to an end the repressive policy of deliberate marginalization of groups of people who may not agree with the LRA ideology.&#8221;  Those are the objectives of the group that we are fighting, or who are being fought and we are joining in the effort to remove them from the battlefield.</p></blockquote>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Does Rush Limbaugh have the slightest clue who the Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army are?  Had he ever even heard of them before yesterday?  Is he aware of their well-documented record of <a href="http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/03/28/dr-congo-lord-s-resistance-army-rampage-kills-321">atrocities and crimes against humanity</a> in Africa&#8217;s Great Lakes region?</li>
<li>Is El Rushbo (&#8220;talent on loan from God&#8221;) purposely playing his listeners for fools, pretending that the LRA are Christian freedom fighters (who he seems to think &#8220;are fighting the Muslims in Sudan,&#8221; which I suppose he and his audience would consider, ipso facto, a Good Thing) and ignoring the atrocities, the children abducted and made to serve as <a href="http://www.childsoldiersglobalreport.org/content/uganda">foot soldiers</a> or <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/child-soldiers-sex-slaves-and-cannibalism-at-gunpoint-the-horrors-of-ugandas-north-544730.html">sex slaves</a>, etc?  None of this is news, folks&#8230; anyone who pays any attention at all to Africa has been hearing about this stuff for years and years.</li>
<li>Is Rush aware that the LRA&#8217;s founder and leader, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony">Joseph Kony</a>, is <a href="http://www.icc-cpi.int/menus/icc/situations%20and%20cases/situations/situation%20icc%200204/related%20cases/icc%200204%200105/uganda?lan=en-GB">wanted by the ICC</a> for crimes against humanity?</li>
<li>How many of Rush&#8217;s listeners will bother to <a href="http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&#038;q=lord's+resistance+army">google &#8220;lord&#8217;s resistance army&#8221;</a> and learn the truth?  How many of them will just be angry about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;attack on Christians&#8221; in Africa?</li>
<li>Why isn&#8217;t Rush ever ashamed of himself when he plays his fans and listeners for fools, treats them like chumps, misleads them like this?</li>
<li>Why <em>is</em> President Obama <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/world/africa/barack-obama-sending-100-armed-advisers-to-africa-to-help-fight-lords-resistance-army.html">sending 100 US military advisors to Uganda</a> to help put down the LRA?  Why now?</li>
<li>If we&#8217;re going to send 100 military advisors to Africa, wouldn&#8217;t they be put to better use helping the <a href="http://www.africa-union.org/root/au/auc/departments/psc/amisom/amisom.htm">Amisom</a> forces fight <a href="http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/al_shabaab.html">Al-Shabaab</a> in southern Somalia?</li>
</ol>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Digby&#8217;s tribal take</p>
<p>Digby <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/whats-in-name.html">seems to think</a> Rush doesn&#8217;t know any better:</p>
<blockquote><p>Considering that Rush is a leader of a rather large group of people who insist that Hitler was a leftist, I&#8217;m not entirely surprised. Rightwingers&#8217; worldview is so Manichean they literally cannot conceive of anyone a Democrat or liberal might oppose not being the good guys &#8212; particularly if that enemy calls itself &#8220;Christian.&#8221; (Again, the proof offered for Hitler&#8217;s alleged leftism is that the word &#8220;socialism&#8221; appears in the name of the Nazi Party. So there you go.)</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s too pat an answer.  Rush knows better;  I don&#8217;t like him (to put it mildly), but the man&#8217;s not stupid.  It&#8217;s not that Rush actually thinks the LRA are &#8220;the good guys&#8221; (I&#8217;m answering some of my own questions, which I posed above, by the way), it&#8217;s that he&#8217;s playing his listeners for fools, purposely trying to mislead them.  If he can score a point against Obama by making it sound like the LRA are &#8220;the good guys&#8221; (&#8220;Christians&#8230; fighting the Muslims in Sudan&#8221;), he&#8217;ll do it, secure in the knowledge that most Americans have never heard of the LRA and won&#8217;t bother to look for any information about them.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> &#8220;Half truths&#8221;</p>
<p>A commenter who identifies as a &#8220;Rush Listener&#8221; wants me to point out that Rush did mention the possibility of LRA having behaved badly, and that he told his listeners he&#8217;d get the facts.  Who knows?  Maybe he&#8217;ll do just that.  Here&#8217;s the relevant comment from Rush&#8217;s transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is that right? The Lord&#8217;s Resistance Army is being accused of really bad stuff? Child kidnapping, torture, murder, that kind of stuff? Well, we just found out about this today. We&#8217;re gonna do, of course, our due diligence research on it. But nevertheless we got a hundred troops being sent over there to fight these guys &#8212; and they claim to be Christians.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe for a minute that Rush didn&#8217;t know any better &#8212; I think he&#8217;s cynically playing his listeners for chumps.  But perhaps he&#8217;ll do the right thing and tell his listeners the truth about the LRA.</p>
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		<title>Wayne LaPierre:  A Fool and a Demagogue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Readers, I am a member of the NRA. I am a handgun owner, and I am a believer in the Second Amendment. Gun ownership is a fundamental right we have as US citizens, and it&#8217;s important that we never forget that. I am also a member of the ACLU, but I think the ACLU has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers, I am a member of the NRA.  I am a handgun owner, and I am a believer in the Second Amendment.  Gun ownership is a fundamental right we have as US citizens, and it&#8217;s important that we never forget that.  I am also a member of the ACLU, but I think the ACLU has a very regrettable blind spot when it comes to the Second Amendment.</p>
<p>There are times when I consider cancelling my NRA membership, though, because the NRA goes far beyond gun rights to support a political platform which I consider reactionary, repellent, and deeply wrong-headed.</p>
<p>When President Obama took office, the NRA and its members had a collective meltdown.  They freaked out.  For example, .45 ACP ammunition became nearly impossible to find for months, as gullible fools were frantically buying it in bulk and stockpiling it, convinced that Obama would soon be sending ATF/Gestapo storm troops to everyone&#8217;s house to confiscate their guns and ammo.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s been in office since January 2009, and he has done nothing &#8212; nothing at all &#8212; to abrogate or threaten anyone&#8217;s Second Amendment rights.  But according to NRA Executive VP Wayne LaPierre, that&#8217;s all part of Obama&#8217;s dastardly plot.</p>
<p>According to LaPierre, Obama has purposely hidden his radical plan to outlaw gun ownership and confiscate everyone&#8217;s guns&#8230; he&#8217;s waiting until he gets re-elected in 2012, and THEN he&#8217;ll come for your guns!</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/26/328300/paranoid-nra-chief-obama-leaving-gun-owners-alone-is-conspiracy-to-take-away-guns/">Read it and weep&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>They&#8217;ll say gun owners &#8212; they&#8217;ll say they left them alone&#8230;  In public, the president will remind us that he&#8217;s put off calls from his party to renew the old Clinton [assault-weapons] ban, that he hasn&#8217;t pushed for new gun control laws&#8230;  The president will offer the Second Amendment lip service and hit the campaign trail saying he&#8217;s actually been good for the Second Amendment.  <strong>But it&#8217;s a big fat stinking lie!</strong>  &#8230;  It&#8217;s all part of <strong>a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment</strong> in our country&#8230;  Before the president was even sworn into office, they met and they hatched a <strong>conspiracy of public deception</strong> to try to guarantee his re-election in 2012.</p></blockquote>
<p>Readers, what can you say about this?  This is just fucking <strong>pathetic.</strong>  LaPierre wants to make sure that every NRA member does the following:</p>
<ol>
<li>DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT voting for Obama next year (not that too many NRA members would be inclined to do so anyway, but there are more of us liberals who support gun rights than you might think).</li>
<li>WRITE A CHECK to the NRA so they can keep fighting Obama&#8217;s imaginary &#8220;conspiracy of public deception,&#8221; which only the NRA are sufficiently clairvoyant to detect and brave enough to fight.</li>
<li>CONTINUE TO STOCKPILE guns and ammunition, since the day is surely coming when we won&#8217;t be able to buy them anymore.</li>
</ol>
<p>This is exactly the kind of reactionary garbage that makes me question whether I should continue being an NRA member.  Nobody else is protecting our Second-Amendment rights, and somebody has to;  but how can I continue, in good conscience, to support an organization that spouts this kind of kooky-con paranoid bullshit?</p>
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		<title>Shameful</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember when many liberals and Democrats claimed to be very upset when the George W. Bush administration decided it was OK for the US government to wiretap citizens&#8217; phones, eavesdrop on citizens&#8217; communications, even put people in prison and hold them there, incommunicado, while subjecting them to &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques,&#8221; indefinitely, without even bothering [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when many liberals and Democrats claimed to be very upset when the George W. Bush administration decided it was OK for the US government to wiretap citizens&#8217; phones, eavesdrop on citizens&#8217; communications, even put people in prison and hold them there, incommunicado, while subjecting them to &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques,&#8221; indefinitely, without even bothering to charge said citizens with a crime;  all this without any judicial or legislative oversight whatsoever.  While Bush was in the White House, many of us Libs and Dems pretended to be very concerned about civil liberties.</p>
<p>Now that a Democrat is in the White House, we are treated to the disgusting spectacle of libs and Dems cheering and partying because the Executive Branch has gone far beyond Bush &#8212; the Executive Branch is now literally <strong>killing US citizens</strong> who are suspected of Terrorism, without bothering to charge them with a crime or present any evidence.  No judicial or legislative oversight, no accountability, just a drone and a missile.</p>
<p>The kooky-con Right saw nothing amiss with the Bush administration&#8217;s terrible civil-liberties record &#8212; they either slumbered contentedly or led cheers for it.  Torture?  Surveillance with no warrant?  Indefinite imprisonment without habeas corpus?  Right on, they shouted.  As soon as a Democrat moved into the White House, the kooky-cons suddenly woke up and got very concerned, afraid that their President was a Socialist Nazi dictator, an enemy of the Freedom they suddenly remembered they&#8217;d once thought they loved.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the pseudo-lib Left pretended to be deeply concerned when Bush locked Suspected Terrorists up without charging them with any crime, but now that the President, who happens to be a Democrat, is not just locking terror-suspect citizens up but <strong>killing them,</strong> without bothering to charge them with any crime, these quondam civil libertarians are cheering and partying.  Go Dems!</p>
<p>We live in a society that has really lost its way, readers.  If you&#8217;d told me fifteen years ago that I&#8217;d see Americans cheering and partying because the US government was killing US citizens without bothering to charge them with a crime, I&#8217;d have told you you were a fool &#8212; Americans would <strong>never</strong> stand for that, much less cheer about it.  But now we live in that America:  our civil liberties, the core of what makes America special, what makes America the best country on earth, are disappearing, and most of us aren&#8217;t sorry to see them go &#8212; we&#8217;d apparently rather not have freedom, because with freedom comes the responsibility to use it wisely, and we&#8217;d rather have the illusory sense of safety that comes from living in a Security State instead.  And things are going to keep getting worse for a long time before they get any better, I fear.  I see very little reason for hope in the foreseeable future.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:  Who gets it?</strong></p>
<p>Here are some people who seem to get it:</p>
<ul>
<li>Amy Davidson, who writes the excellent &#8220;Close Reads&#8221; blog for <em>The New Yorker,</em> <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2011/09/questions-about-killing-anwar-al-awlaki.html">gets it.</a></li>
<li>When it comes to civil liberties and the Bill of Rights, Glenn Greenwald <strong>always</strong> <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/yemen/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/09/30/awlaki">gets it.</a></li>
<li>Kevin Williamson, at NRO&#8217;s blog &#8220;The Corner,&#8221; <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278794/us-citizen-assassinated-kevin-d-williamson">gets it.</a></li>
<li>Ron Paul (with whom I usually disagree quite strongly) <a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/30/8059346-paul-condemns-assassinating-al-awlaki">gets it.</a></li>
<li>The ACLU, needless to say, <a href="http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/aclu-lens-american-citizen-anwar-al-aulaqi-killed-without-judicial-process">gets it.</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Jake Tapper asked White House spokesperson Jay Carney some <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/todays-qs-for-os-wh-9302011/">good, tough questions</a> about Awlaki&#8217;s killing.  Carney&#8217;s answers were, sadly, very bad indeed.</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Interview: Ouattara wants Gbagbo tried for &#8220;war crimes&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://dumpendebat.net/2011/05/27/interview-ouattara-wants-gbagbo-tried-for-war-crimes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ivory Coast President Alassane Ouattara finally took the oath of office last Saturday, 21 May 2011, having been elected last November. The outgoing president Laurent Gbagbo had refused to leave office, despite the fact that his defeat had been recognized by the international community, the UN, and the African Union. His refusal to leave office [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivory Coast President Alassane Ouattara <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-21/ivory-coast-s-ouattara-is-sworn-in-as-president-pledges-reconciliation.html" title="Link to Bloomberg news story on Ivory Coast">finally took the oath of office</a> last Saturday, 21 May 2011, having been elected last November.  The outgoing president Laurent Gbagbo had refused to leave office, despite the fact that his defeat had been recognized by the international community, the UN, and the African Union.  His refusal to leave office led to months of <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-27/un-says-1-000-people-were-killed-in-western-ivory-coast-clashes.html" title="Link to Bloomberg news story on Ivory Coast violence">violent clashes</a> between pro-Ouattara militias and Gbagbo-supporting forces;  Gbagbo was finally <a href="http://www.undispatch.com/ivory-coasts-laurent-gbagbos-capture-caught-on-tape" title="Link to Gbagbo capture video at UN Dispatch website">taken into custody</a> (by local soldiers, with help from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unicorn" title="Link to Wikipedia article on Operation Unicorn">French military</a>) last month after battles in the capital city.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested (and you understand French), you can watch <a href="http://www.france24.com/fr/20110522-alassane-ouattara-souhaite-laurent-gbagbo-soit-juge-crimes-guerre-cote-ivoire" title="Link to Ouattara interview at France 24 website">Ouattara&#8217;s recent interview</a> with <a href="http://www.france24.com/fr/" title="Link to France 24 website">France 24</a>, in which he says he&#8217;d like Gbagbo to be tried for &#8220;war crimes&#8221; by the <a href="http://www.icc-cpi.int/Menus/ICC/" title="Link to ICC website">International Criminal Court</a>:</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Shaking&#8221; one&#8217;s head = &#8220;nodding&#8221; one&#8217;s head?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not often, but on a regular basis (at least once or twice a year), I&#8217;ll hear someone refer to the act of nodding one&#8217;s head (by which I mean &#8220;moving one&#8217;s head up and down to indicate yes&#8220;) as &#8220;shaking&#8221; one&#8217;s head (by which I mean &#8220;moving one&#8217;s head side-to-side to indicate no&#8220;). For example, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not often, but on a regular basis (at least once or twice a year), I&#8217;ll hear someone refer to the act of <strong><em>nodding</em></strong> one&#8217;s head (by which I mean &#8220;moving one&#8217;s head up and down to indicate <em>yes</em>&#8220;) as <strong><em>&#8220;shaking&#8221;</em></strong> one&#8217;s head (by which I mean &#8220;moving one&#8217;s head side-to-side to indicate <em>no</em>&#8220;).</p>
<p>For example, I noticed it last night during the final time-out of the <a href="http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2010030316" title="Link to Bruins-Lightning Game Six recap">Bruins-Lightning game</a> (Game Six of the NHL Eastern Conference finals):  Boston&#8217;s coach was going over some plays on a little whiteboard, and the Versus Network announcer pointed out to the TV audience that we could see one of the players &#8220;shaking his head &#8216;yes&#8217; &#8212; he&#8217;s on board with the coach&#8217;s plan,&#8221; or something along those lines.  The player in question was, of course, <em>nodding</em> his head, not <em>shaking</em> it.</p>
<p>I first noticed this usage, which has always seemed extremely odd to me, twenty years ago, when I was having a (face-to-face) conversation with someone who told a third party (on the telephone) that I was &#8220;shaking [my] head.&#8221; His intention was to let the third party know that I agreed, but I was alarmed &#8212; I didn&#8217;t want the third party, who&#8217;d just been told I was &#8220;shaking&#8221; my head, to get the mistaken impression that I was disagreeing, when what I was actually doing was <strong>nodding</strong> my head (to show that I agreed).  If I were talking on the phone and someone told me that an unseen third party was &#8220;shaking his head,&#8221; I&#8217;d assume that to mean that that person was indicating his/her <em>dis</em>agreement with whatever we were talking about.</p>
<p>After the game last night, I played around on Google for a while to see if I could find examples of anybody else using the term <em>shaking one&#8217;s head</em> to mean <em>nodding one&#8217;s head</em>, but I couldn&#8217;t figure out the right search terms to use:  all I could come up with were many discussions of cultures where those signs are reversed (apparently, the Bulgarians are among the only people on Earth who <em>nod</em> their heads to indicate &#8220;no&#8221; and <em>shake</em> their heads to indicate &#8220;yes&#8221;).</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Has anyone else ever noticed this:  someone using the term &#8220;shaking one&#8217;s head&#8221; [which, to me and most other English speakers, means turning one's head side-to-side several times] to mean &#8220;nodding one&#8217;s head&#8221; [i.e. moving one's head up and down several times]?</li>
<li>Do these people also say &#8220;nodding one&#8217;s head&#8221; [side-to-side] to mean &#8220;shaking one&#8217;s head&#8221; [up and down]?  In other words, have they switched the two terms&#8217; meanings around?  Or do they use &#8220;shaking one&#8217;s head&#8221; to mean both &#8220;shaking&#8221; and &#8220;nodding&#8221;?  My gut feeling is that it&#8217;s the latter, but I have no proof of this;  all I can say is that I have never actually heard anyone say &#8220;nodding his head&#8221; to mean &#8220;moving his head side-to-side,&#8221; but I have heard &#8220;shaking his head&#8221; to mean &#8220;moving his head up and down&#8221; many times.</li>
<li>Could it be a regional-usage thing, maybe?  Is it just that there is some part of America where people say &#8220;shaking one&#8217;s head&#8221; to mean both &#8220;shaking&#8221; and &#8220;nodding&#8221;?  Or is it that certain individuals just say it this way, for obscure reasons of their own?</li>
</ol>
<p>I would love feedback on this one, readers, if you have anything to say about this.</p>
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		<title>Tribal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Weekly Standard, David Mamet explains his conversion from the Liberal tribe to the Conservative tribe: &#8220;But I saw the liberals hated George Bush. It was vicious. And I thought about it, and I didn’t get it. He was no worse than the others, was he? And I’d ask my liberal friends, &#8216;Well, why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the <em>Weekly Standard</em>, David Mamet <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/converting-mamet_561048.html?page=3">explains his conversion</a> from the Liberal tribe to the Conservative tribe:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;But I saw the liberals hated George Bush. It was vicious. And I thought about it, and I didn’t get it. He was no worse than the others, was he? And I’d ask my liberal friends, &#8216;Well, why do you hate him?&#8217; <strong>They’d all say: &#8216;He lied about WMD.&#8217; Okay. You love [John F.] Kennedy. Kennedy didn&#8217;t write <em>Profiles in Courage</em> &#8212; he lied about that.</strong> &#8216;Bush is in bed with the Saudis!&#8217; Okay, Kennedy was in bed with the mafia.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So:  it doesn&#8217;t make sense to &#8220;hate&#8221; George W. Bush for invading Iraq and causing hundreds of thousands of deaths on the pretext of non-existent WMDs, because a prominent Democrat <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiles_in_courage#Authorship_controversy">lied about writing a book</a> fifty years ago.  It&#8217;s the same thing!</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m sick of tribal politics.  It&#8217;s just about point-scoring:  if somebody on the other team points out that somebody on my team did something bad, I have to come up with a counter-example of somebody on the other team who did something bad, too.  It doesn&#8217;t have to make sense, it just has to help me say <em>My team good, your team bad.</em>  I just don&#8217;t have time for this anymore.  I used to get caught up in this foolishness, too, but it&#8217;s a waste of time.  Our problems will only continue to get worse as long as we&#8217;re divided into two brain-dead tribes who spend their time shouting at each other.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Senior Citizen&#8221; at 40?</title>
		<link>http://dumpendebat.net/2011/05/12/senior-citizen-at-40/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Readers, I just came home from the grocery store, and my receipt says (if I&#8217;m reading it correctly) that the cashier gave me a &#8220;senior citizen&#8221; discount. That saved me $3.67, which is OK, but the thing is, I&#8217;m only 40 years old. Time to think about &#8220;Just For Men?&#8221;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers, I just came home from the grocery store, and my receipt says (if I&#8217;m reading it correctly) that the cashier gave me <strong>a &#8220;senior citizen&#8221; discount.</strong>  That saved me $3.67, which is OK, but the thing is, <strong>I&#8217;m only 40 years old.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Time to think about <a href="http://www.justformen.com/home.asp" title="Link to Just For Men hair-coloring product website">&#8220;Just For Men?&#8221;</a></p>
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